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Are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3D shape perception? A reply to Sawada and Pizlo (2022)

Yu, Todd, and Petrov (2021) and Yu, Petrov, and Todd (2021) investigated failures of shape constancy that occur when objects are viewed stereoscopically at different distances. Although this result has been reported previously with simple objects such as pyramids or cylinders, we examined more compl...

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Autores principales: Petrov, Alexander A., Yu, Ying, Todd, James T.
Formato: Online Artículo Texto
Lenguaje:English
Publicado: The Association for Research in Vision and Ophthalmology 2022
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Acceso en línea:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8976917/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35344020
http://dx.doi.org/10.1167/jov.22.4.16
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description Yu, Todd, and Petrov (2021) and Yu, Petrov, and Todd (2021) investigated failures of shape constancy that occur when objects are viewed stereoscopically at different distances. Although this result has been reported previously with simple objects such as pyramids or cylinders, we examined more complex objects with bilateral symmetry to test the claim by Li, Sawada, Shi, Kwon, and Pizlo (2011) that the perception of those objects is veridical. Sawada and Pizlo (2022) offer several criticisms of our experiments, but they seem to suggest that the concept of shape is defined by what is computable by their model. If stimuli are used that cannot be discriminated by their model, they are dismissed as degenerate, and tasks that cannot be performed by their model are assumed to be based on something other than shape. This allows them to disregard empirical evidence that is inconsistent with their model. We argue, in contrast, that all reliable aspects of shape perception are deserving of explanation. We also argue that there are many different attributes of shape and many different sources of information about shape that may be relevant in different contexts. It is unlikely that all of them can be explained by a single model.
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spelling pubmed-89769172022-04-04 Are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3D shape perception? A reply to Sawada and Pizlo (2022) Petrov, Alexander A. Yu, Ying Todd, James T. J Vis Author Response to Letter Yu, Todd, and Petrov (2021) and Yu, Petrov, and Todd (2021) investigated failures of shape constancy that occur when objects are viewed stereoscopically at different distances. Although this result has been reported previously with simple objects such as pyramids or cylinders, we examined more complex objects with bilateral symmetry to test the claim by Li, Sawada, Shi, Kwon, and Pizlo (2011) that the perception of those objects is veridical. Sawada and Pizlo (2022) offer several criticisms of our experiments, but they seem to suggest that the concept of shape is defined by what is computable by their model. If stimuli are used that cannot be discriminated by their model, they are dismissed as degenerate, and tasks that cannot be performed by their model are assumed to be based on something other than shape. This allows them to disregard empirical evidence that is inconsistent with their model. We argue, in contrast, that all reliable aspects of shape perception are deserving of explanation. We also argue that there are many different attributes of shape and many different sources of information about shape that may be relevant in different contexts. It is unlikely that all of them can be explained by a single model. The Association for Research in Vision and Ophthalmology 2022-03-28 /pmc/articles/PMC8976917/ /pubmed/35344020 http://dx.doi.org/10.1167/jov.22.4.16 Text en Copyright 2022 The Authors https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.
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Are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3D shape perception? A reply to Sawada and Pizlo (2022)
title Are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3D shape perception? A reply to Sawada and Pizlo (2022)
title_full Are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3D shape perception? A reply to Sawada and Pizlo (2022)
title_fullStr Are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3D shape perception? A reply to Sawada and Pizlo (2022)
title_full_unstemmed Are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3D shape perception? A reply to Sawada and Pizlo (2022)
title_short Are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3D shape perception? A reply to Sawada and Pizlo (2022)
title_sort are mirror-symmetric objects of special importance for 3d shape perception? a reply to sawada and pizlo (2022)
topic Author Response to Letter
url https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8976917/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35344020
http://dx.doi.org/10.1167/jov.22.4.16
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